#418 - "Secret BANKERS!" - Roman Empire Expert on Alexander, BLOODLINES & The Vatican | Jeremy Ryan Slate • 418
And I think part of the issue is you have to fix currency. But the other part is like, and and this isn't saying I'm like, you know, we have to be the most upstanding moral society, but we need some sort of moral reform. I know you're a big gladiator guy, not really historically accurate. Don't do that. I won't do that. But an incredibly good movie, right, because the way it's it's put together. So a lot of the armor and things that they use in the movie, like I on XI have a like a chat thread of all the historians that I'm that I'm friends with and they're all going back and forth about all the armor is not the right armor and things like that. But it's it looks like it still could be a cool movie. So I think it's OK to be a cool movie but be wrong. Like you know what I mean? You can look at it for what it is in. This household, it's right. That's so. Maximus is real. 100 percent, 100%. He's a composite character. Of a few people his. Armor was perfect. Perfect. Someone bought his armor and owns it today. He's like a fucking tech guy. Is it Ohanian even? People do things like I think. Serena Williams, husband I I might have made that up like. Like the emperor. The emperor Caracalla supposedly found the breastplate of Alexander the Great and wanted to wear it in marches. Yeah, yeah. Dave's, Dave's pulling it up. Was that it, though? This is the Gladiator. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying that I think. $96,000. Yeah. Can you Scroll down? Was it Ohanian that did? Does it say there? Can you type in Ohanian Gladiator armor that was? Sotheby's, I feel. Like it was him who bought it, the Reddit guy Serena Williams husband. Oh, she's married to the Reddit guy, Yeah. Am I right? Yes, I am right. Yes, I own the helmet. It was the. Helmet it's from Alexis ohanian yes, I own the helmet from Gladiator and no, it doesn't fit on my giant head but that's what kids are for I. Must have a big. Fucking head. Because Russell Crowe's got a Dome. Russell Crowe's got a Dome and it doesn't fit on his head. That's crazy there. Was a picture of him recently in front of the Coliseum and it was like taking my kids to work. Day. Russell Crowe. Yeah, he, I Russell Crowe's one of my favorites of all time, but I it was. Always a Gerard Butler fan because he was so good in 300. He, he, he nailed that role, man. And that was really from a comic book perspective. It was so good, was such a good movie. Yeah, but that that's it. Goes back to it doesn't have to be right. If the theatrical element is really good, they. They basically were telling you in the 1st frame of that movie that they were suspending disbelief, right? Like this was going to be a little different. Yeah, but like the ideas guys held this area but. The reason I think something like that is important is, once again, doesn't have to be right, but it gets people to be interested. And that's why I look at what I do. Am I right about everything now? But if I get people to be interested and look for themselves, well, I think that's really important because we forget these things, right? Let me not sense to you, let's, let's do this conversation, painful as it might be. I'm not talking about Gladiator 2, I'm talking about Gladiator here. That's what you're bringing up. But what outside of maybe some of the armor and the time period of it, what is so wrong? And the fact that they invented a character well. How common is dies? Commodus says. Like because he died, he dies in the arena in that movie. That correct? Yeah. That's a nice ending. So how he actually dies is he's very hated in Rome and his death kicks off what's called the year of the Five Emperors, that the last guy coming out is going to be a North African named Septimius Severus. And they try to assassinate Commodus many times. And it gets to the end where finally his concubine tries to poison him and they, he's so drunk when they give him the poison, the poisons and wine, they actually throws up the poison. Oh, wow. And then they get to the point at the end that a wrestler, so not quite a gladiator, but a wrestler strangles in the death in the in the bath. So right. That's not that. It's. Not that far off, but you know, it's it's not exactly a now he did like to fight as a gladiator, but how he fought as a gladiator because once again, he's afraid of hurting himself as he would kill emperor or kill emperors kill animals from a platform. They would stand up a platform and he'd stab and shoot those animals from a platform like with a. Crossbow and stuff well. Not a crossbow. When he, when he. Was when he was shooting them. Bow or spear or something like that. He would kill them from a platform because he wants to be in danger. You know, I'm still an emperor. But he. Did want to fight in the arena, that was important, so he did. Really go down in the arena. And he was. We didn't go down in the arena, he went down in his home. You know Gladiator gets him in the bath and strangles him to death. Oh no, I know, but I'm saying when he was doing the Gladiator. He did do that. Yeah, he did do that. And he was another guy that was obsessed with Heracles because once. Commodus. Commodus And I think that's an important distinction because I said the Romans have a God named Hercules. The Greek version is Heracles. But as kind of the Roman Empire becomes more Greek, which is called the Hellenization, they start to really get interested in the God Heracles. And Heracles, one of the big symbolisms of him was the lion head. So if you seen the imagery of Alexander wearing the lion head helmet, it's because he was positioning himself as Heracles. Commodus often fought with a lion head helmet because he wanted to be Heracles. And if you look at a lot of his imagery on coins and things like that, they would have a lion head on Commodus because they wanted to see it. He wanted to see himself more as this Heracles figure. But you said that you said in there that they started viewing themselves as more and more Greek. What what when did that specifically start to happen, that Hellenization period? It's. Around the the mid first to late early 2nd century you're going to start to have more Greek culture coming into Rome because after so 31 BC is a battle of actium not far. Not long after that, you're going to have the last Hellenistic Kingdom.